A LEADING journalist who sat down with serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer has described what it was like staring into the face of evil, and why he was unlike any other murderer she interviewed.
Six-time Emmy award-winning producer and writer Nancy Glass spoke to twisted cannibal Dahmer in 1993 for CNN’s Inside Edition, a year before he was murdered in prison at the hands of a fellow inmate.
It was the first time the serial killer had ever given a public interview since being sentenced to life in prison for the murders of 17 men and boys.
Speaking to The Sun Online, Nancy, who has interviewed other murderers and criminals in her illustrious career, explained what made Dahmer the most chilling of all to speak to.
“My first impression of Dahmer was how normal he appeared,” she said. “It makes you think that anybody could be capable of crimes like this.
“If he had acted like a maniac, I would have been more relieved.”
She said Dahmer was “not charming”, but at the same time, “you wouldn’t have picked him out of a crowd”.
Although she doesn’t know exactly why Dahmer agreed to an interview with him, she believes one reason was simply that he was “lonely” and “wanted to talk”.
Getting an interview with Dahmer was no easy task, and it took more than a year and a half to secure the exclusive, building a relationship with the murderer and his family.
“He wanted to talk to somebody and he had gotten used to talking to me.”
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Nancy made it clear there were no conditions for the interview, and that she would let him speak.
In this way, he revealed his true evil self.
“His mind is not like yours and mine,” she said. “He was so twisted.
“The only thing that is fair is the truth. I’m not there to prosecute him, but by telling the truth, people realise what evil was there, and the intentionality of it.”
She added: “I’ve interviewed other serial killers, and he wasn’t like any of them.”
He knew what he did
Nancy recalled an interview with Joel Rifkin, who murdered between nine and 17 women between 1989 and 1993.
She said killers usually blame something or someone for pushing them to commit their crimes.
In contrast, she said, Dahmer “put his crimes on himself. He knew what he did”.
Through speaking to him it was clear he was “sad” at his predicament.
“He stayed up all night and slept all day because he couldn’t face the daylight,” she said.
Although in the interview, Dahmer says sorry for his crimes, Nancy believes he “didn’t understand what that meant”.
She went on: “Let’s not sugarcoat this, he was a psychopath. I had no sympathy whatsoever.”
Throughout their interview, which has resurfaced in recent weeks in the wake of the Netflix limited series “Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story”, the killer never lets the mask slip, maintaining a polite, almost shy facade throughout.
For Nancy, who had read all of the depositions and knew details of Dahmer’s murders too gruesome to be shared with the public, the contrast between his calm demeanour in front of her and what he had done was even more chilling.
“It’s so baffling how anybody could be so cruel and do such terrible things,” she said.
“There are crimes of passion and crimes of revenge, but this was the intentional destruction of human life.
“You ask, how could anybody be this way?”
In the aftermath of her bombshell interview, Nancy said Dahmer and his family were furious with her.
Dahmer’s parents even complained to Nancy: “You’ve made him look like a monster!”
But as Nancy responded, Dahmer “made himself look like a monster”.
She added: “I don’t want a criminal to be pleased with their portrayal.”
Today, Nancy is CEO of Glass Entertainment Group and has more than 22 TV shows and podcasts currently in production in the US.
In the years since she has spoken further to Dahmer’s family.
“They are still unhappy with the interview,” she said, “but they’ve come to terms with who he is.”