私は連続殺人犯と一緒に座ってきました…これがジェフリー・ダーマーが私が今まで会った中で最悪の理由です

A LEADING journalist who sat down with serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer has described what it was like staring into the face of evil, and why he was unlike any other murderer she interviewed.

Six-time Emmy award-winning producer and writer Nancy Glass spoke to twisted cannibal ダーマー に 1993 for CNN’s Inside Edition, a year before he was murdered in prison at the hands of a fellow inmate.

Nancy Glass, 正しい, sat down with serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer in 1993

Nancy Glass, 正しい, sat down with serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer in 1993クレジット: AP
インタビューで, Nancy asked Dahmer about his crimes

インタビューで, Nancy asked Dahmer about his crimesクレジット: YouTube
Dahmer was quiet and polite, but 'not charming'

Dahmer was quiet and polite, but ‘not charming

It was the first time the 連続殺人犯 had ever given a public interview since being sentenced to life in prison for the murders of 17 men and boys.

と話す サンオンライン, ナンシー, who has interviewed other murderers and criminals in her illustrious career, explained what made Dahmer the most chilling of all to speak to.

My first impression of Dahmer was how normal he appeared,” 彼女は言いました. “It makes you think that anybody could be capable of crimes like this.

If he had acted like a maniac, I would have been more relieved.

She said Dahmer wasnot charming”, しかし同時に, “you wouldn’t have picked him out of a crowd”.

Although she doesn’t know exactly why Dahmer agreed to an interview with him, she believes one reason was simply that he was “さみしい” そして “wanted to talk”.

Getting an interview with Dahmer was no easy task, and it took more than a year and a half to secure the exclusive, building a relationship with the murderer and his family.

He wanted to talk to somebody and he had gotten used to talking to me.

Nancy made it clear there were no conditions for the interview, and that she would let him speak.

In this way, he revealed his true evil self.

His mind is not like yours and mine,” 彼女は言いました. “He was so twisted.

The only thing that is fair is the truth. I’m not there to prosecute him, but by telling the truth, people realise what evil was there, and the intentionality of it.

彼女は付け加えた: “I’ve interviewed other serial killers, and he wasn’t like any of them.

He knew what he did

Nancy GlassJournalist who interviewed Jeffrey Dahmer

Nancy recalled an interview with Joel Rifkin, who murdered between nine and 17 women between 1989 そして 1993.

She said killers usually blame something or someone for pushing them to commit their crimes.

対照的に, 彼女は言いました, ダーマー “put his crimes on himself. He knew what he did”.

Through speaking to him it was clear he was “悲しい” at his predicament.

He stayed up all night and slept all day because he couldn’t face the daylight,” 彼女は言いました.

Although in the interview, Dahmer says sorry for his crimes, Nancy believes hedidn’t understand what that meant”.

彼女は続けた: “Let’s not sugarcoat this, he was a psychopath. I had no sympathy whatsoever.

Nancy was most struck by how 'normal' Dahmer appeared

Nancy was most struck by how ‘normalDahmer appeared
Dahmer was killed in prison a year after the interview aired

Dahmer was killed in prison a year after the interview aired
の間に 1978 そして 1991, Dahmer killed and dismembered 17 young men and boys

の間に 1978 そして 1991, Dahmer killed and dismembered 17 young men and boysクレジット: ゲッティ

Throughout their interview, which has resurfaced in recent weeks in the wake of the Netflix limited series “モンスター: ジェフリーダーマーストーリー”, the killer never lets the mask slip, maintaining a polite, almost shy facade throughout.

For Nancy, who had read all of the depositions and knew details of Dahmer’s murders too gruesome to be shared with the public, the contrast between his calm demeanour in front of her and what he had done was even more chilling.

It’s so baffling how anybody could be so cruel and do such terrible things,” 彼女は言いました.

There are crimes of passion and crimes of revenge, but this was the intentional destruction of human life.

You ask, how could anybody be this way?”

In the aftermath of her bombshell interview, Nancy said Dahmer and his family were furious with her.

Dahmer’s parents even complained to Nancy: “You’ve made him look like a monster!”

But as Nancy responded, ダーマー “made himself look like a monster”.

彼女は付け加えた: “I don’t want a criminal to be pleased with their portrayal.

今日, Nancy is CEO of Glass Entertainment Group and has more than 22 TV shows and podcasts currently in production in the US.

In the years since she has spoken further to Dahmer’s family.

They are still unhappy with the interview,” 彼女は言いました, “but they’ve come to terms with who he is.